Order of Creation
aymon de albatrus
My dear friend
Of course I do understand that you do not believe in the God of the Bible nor in His Word. Please do forgive me, for I have resolved that for the rest of my little life all my opinions and statements and living will be from the Word of God as my inerrant basis. This may be annoying to other people, sorry about that, but all my response will be from the Bible and none from the secular world. I will be criticised, but, at least I am coherent with my beliefs.
Now to the Man-Woman situation.
Below I shall present a brief précis, if you want to have a longer dissertation on the matter and if you are a glutton of perseverance you may wish to read my article, just click:
Can Women Govern?
God IS, not exists, but IS.
"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: ......" (Exo 3:14)
ALL that exists is created by God, and there is nothing that exists that God did not create, absolutely nothing left out. "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." (Rev 4:11)
God decided to create man (Adam) out of the ground:
And Jehovah God formed the man out of dust from the ground, (Genesis 2:7a)
God breathed life and the spirit in the man:
and blew into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (Gen 2:7b)
God decided to give to the man a help-meet. A helper is not superior to the one being helped, nor his equal for he helps, not directs, "meet" means a helper perfectly suited to his needs.
"And Jehovah God said, It is not good, the man being alone. I will make a helper suited to him." (Gen 2:18)
God took a "rib" from Adam’s body to make the wo-man (meaning from-man) therefore the woman is cloned from the man Adam, a derivative, albeit of the same essence, but the man has the pre-eminence:
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. (Gen 2:22)
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (Gen 2:23)
God made woman specifically for the man, this means that without the man there is no reason for the woman to exists:
"8 for man is not of the woman, but woman of man; 9 for also man was not created for the sake of the woman, but woman for the sake of the man;" (1Co 11:8-9)
The man Adam named the woman, just as he had done with the animals, that is the reason why woman must take the surname of the husband:
And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. (Gen 3:20)
God put the man, firstly, in Eden and later his wife giving them a test:
"but of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil you may not eat, for in the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die." (Gen 2:17)
Eve caused the man to fail the test and that is why we are here in this valley of tears, and God gave the punishment according to their due:
to the man:
"And He said to the man, Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree about which I commanded you, saying, You shall not eat from it, the ground shall be cursed because of you; you shall eat of it in sorrow all the days of your life." (Gen 3:17)
and to the woman
"He said to the woman, I will greatly increase your sorrow and your conception; you shall bear sons in sorrow, and your desire shall be toward your husband; and he shall rule over you." (Gen 3:16)
And so God has put further limitation on woman to govern and teach:
"12 And I do not allow a woman to teach nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived has come to be in transgression;" (1Ti 2:12-14)
God has created man at His Image and Glory whilst He made woman the glory of man, there is a difference:
"For truly a man ought not to have the head covered, being the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man;" (1Co 11:7)
Finally the order of God is Hierarchical (not egalitarian):
"But I want you to know that Christ is the Head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ." (1Co 11:3)
So the order in God is:
God is the head of Christ,
Christ is the head of man,
man is the head of woman,
woman is the head of no one for she was created specifically for the man. This clearly means that the role woman has in life, revolves entirely around her man and nobody else. Thus she cannot hold any position outside that sphere, for if she were to do so she could be the "head" of a man, which is contrary to the purpose she was made for.
The Word of God specifically excludes women from any leadership. I know there have been women being put into leadership by uninformed foolish men, but that was/is done contrary to the revealed will of God. "As for My people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over him. Oh My people, your rulers cause you to go astray, and they swallow the way of your paths." (Isa 3:12 LIT)
Thus, very briefly, here is my reference, you may vehemently dislike it and totally reject it and even ridicule it, nema problema, you are free to do that, but it is my unmovable and irrefutable foundation.
The positions we have here are that your worldview cannot accept my God view and my God view totally rejects the worldview and neither con prove to the other the veracity of his view.
However I do have an advantage, for I am very well familiar with both the worldview and God view, whilst you only know the worldview.
Incidentally, I did mention that our positions have moved apart, well that is not entirely true. My view was always what it is today, but then I was not informed, so for fear of being rejected and ridiculed by the supporters of the worldview I covered my actual beliefs. But now, thanks to God, I am very well informed and can proclaim my view and stand my ground with firmness, strong conviction and above all, without fear.
I say, if it is up to us, let us live in peace:
"If possible, as far as is in you, seeking peace with all men;" (Rom 12:18)
Be well, my friend